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  • #88524

    zieluch
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    Hi Everyone,

    this is my first post on the forum.

    I started build of MPCNC but as a newbie I think I have some issue with step motors.  I’m using mini rambo 1.3 bought here

    https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B07GLKDCML/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    and step motors, like below:

    https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B072LVBK13/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04__o00_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1

     

    I flashed board with Marlin-MPCNC_MRambo_T8_16T_LCD from github. I connected only two step motors (X,Y)to check if I will be able to move it.  I didn’t change anything in the configuration except BAUDRATE as initially I couldn’t connect to the board with Repetier-Mac. But the problem was with the driver, once I instal it everything was fine so I back to standard value 250000.

    Now step motors start to move but I think there is a problem.  Motors seems to could not find  iddle possition after moving  and gets noisy. For me it looks like some move parameters are wrong in the software or there is an issue with power input. Now I have no idea where to start , please advise.  Below you can find screenshot from Repetier configuration.

     

    Just to add one more thing mini rambo is getting quite hot , step motors stays room temperature.

     

    Cheers

    Michal

    • This topic was modified 5 days, 21 hours ago by  zieluch.
    #88575

    Barry
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    It uses the board as a heat sync, so the back gets pretty hot.  My printer has a fan blowing on the back side of the board.  The motors will make noise while sitting still, that’s pretty normal.

    #89512

    zieluch
    Participant

    I think still something is wrong. I wire now two motors together according to the wiring instruction  nad the problem still occurs. Motors vibrate but not move at all. I disconect belt to check if the load is to big but still motors only vibrate  without moving.

    Below you can find move on that

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/u8Q1NyhjhYnyAgLBA

    #89515

    Guffy
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    If motors move properly, but you hear light high frequency noise when they hold in some position it’s ok. I have such noise with dvr8825 and don’t care – mpcnc works fine.

    My 3d printer use tmc2100 and yes, it completely silent in this case (only controller fan produce  noise)

    #89531

    zieluch
    Participant

    Unfortunately step motors not move only vibrate as shown on movie

    #89552

    Bill
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    Disconnect the motor at one end and try again. The two may be trying to move in opposite directions.

    #89556

    Barry
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    Steppers aren’t wired properly.  Unplug the power, then unplug all but one stepper.  Test it.  If it moves, then unplug the power, and plug in the opposite side stepper.  Test again.  If it does that, the stepper wires aren’t in the correct order.  I have seen them come in with different color orders.  It could also be one of the pins in the connectors came loose and got pushed out of the housing far enough to not make a good contact.

    • This reply was modified 5 days, 20 hours ago by  Barry.
    #89688

    zieluch
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    I disconnect all belts except one side X axis. I plugged only one motor on X connected with belt and one on Y completely free. Try move X axis but is shaking the same as on the previous movie without moving. Free engine is moving a but more but irregular and if I’m touching the wheel immediately stops and there is no force from motor. I tried also to swap connection plug on the board but nothing change still more vibration than actual movement.  I have radiators on board chips but still get extremely hot (measured around 80degree Celsius  and switch off immediately).

     

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/vAxNhDKksb9XpyCL6

     

     

    #89691

    BT
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    I would check that you have the wiring done correctly.  It looks and sounds like there’s either a bad connection or it is cross-wired.

    #89717

    Barry
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    Yep, wires aren’t correct. You’ll need to figure out the correct wire pairs for your steppers.

    Also, remove the heat sinks.  The chips are designed to use the board as a sink, not the top of the chips.  Blow a fan on the bottom of the board for cooling.

    #89742

    AZ_Ron
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    Zieluch, I had EXACTLY the same issue you’re having just last night trying to get my MPCNC up and running.

    My problem was exactly what Barry and BT are saying… The wires are in the wrong order in one or both connectors. It’s quite easy to remove the wires, and swap them around. The trick is figuring out where they should ACTUALLY go. On mine, I wound up removing all 4 wires from one of the connectors and swapping two wires around on the other end. My machine works fine now (Jogging anyway, haven’t gotten to cut/draw anything just yet. Working on that now. Motors are quiet and smooth. So it sounds like you have some wires crossed. That’s a common issue it seems, as there seems to be no standard for color coding on steppers.

     

    #90007

    zieluch
    Participant

    Hi

    I disassembly motor and looks like on picture below and i wire it blue, red, green, black.  From option which I tested I think this is the best but would like to confirm with someone more oriantated.

    thanks

    Michal

    #90028

    BT
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    It looks like the connector should be wired blue/black/green/red.  The easiest way to confirm is to either do a continuity check with a resistance meter or take two of the wires and hold the conductors together – if the motor is hard to turn then you know they are connected to the same coils and should be adjacent to one another on one side of the connector.

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